Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ceol '09

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Ceol (compilation series). Likewise for the other album articles. Sandstein 09:20, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Ceol '09

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Was deprodded without improvement, comment was that others in the series are notable, but if you look at those articles, they are in just as bad shape as this one. Searches did not turn up anything to show this passes GNG. I think perhaps an overall list article for all the discs in this series might be the way to go. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:13, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs and Ireland. Shellwood (talk) 15:29, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps that could be best, still just removing one and not the others would look silly. The whole reason I made the article was cause of that very reason. Perhaps something like "List of Seachtain na Gaelige releases"? The articles themselves also leave out a number of details like for example I belive they were given out as free "prizes" with some newspapers. A list of all releasess would be much more concise and contain more vaulable information. FishandChipper 🐟🍟 21:16, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

• Move/merge/redirect. Having completed a WP:BEFORE that surfaced sources enough to support some expansion, I'm not convinced that WP:GNG or WP:NALBUM are met. For this individual album in the compilation series. There is however likely an argument to be made that the series as a whole is notable. Which seems to be the argument the creator is making. Anyway, as noted above (including by the nom), it seems that the best course here (as an AtD) is likely to:

• Move the article from Ceol '09 to Ceol (compilation series)
• Merge whatever reliably referenced content there is from the Ceol '07, Ceol '08, Ceol '10 articles to the new title. And
• Redirect the individual titles to the combined article.

The resulting arrangement would be similar to equivalent articles on series of compilation albums. Like Just the Hits (compilation series) or Shine (compilation series) or any of the other many similar members of the Category:Compilation album series cat. Guliolopez (talk) 16:12, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:11, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

• Comment- Just the fact of Notable Artistes Involved and one of its song being recreated on an Oscar winning song doesn't satisfies WP:GNG/WP:NALBUM, If NOT Deleted merge per Guliolopez above. Surya^{beej   ⋠talk⋡} 10:46, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:36, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Delete all four: As nice as Guliolopez's plan sounds, I can't find any coverage of the series that would convince me that this hypothetical combo article would pass WP:NLIST. The coverage added to '09 definitely doesn't convince me that this article is saveable, and I also haven't seen anything for the rest of the series that would save those. QuietHere (talk) 06:27, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

• Move to Ceol (compilation series) and merge all the others to the target per Guliolopez's argument. None of the compilations meet WP:NALBUM alone, but the compilation meets WP:NLIST. SBKSPP (talk) 01:06, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

  @SBKSPP what makes you so sure that there's an NLIST pass here? I haven't seen any coverage of this series as a group, neither presented here nor in my own search, which is what the policy asks for ("it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines"). Is there something I've missed? QuietHere (talk) 03:46, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Sources which cover the series as a group include this (source: Raidió Rí-Rá), this (source: The University Observer), and this (source: Hot Press [paywalled]). While, I'll be the first to admit, there are not many English-language sources which deal with the compilation series as a whole, I'm not sure its fair to say that there aren't any such sources... Guliolopez (talk) 18:01, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

As much as I admit I'm still not 100% convinced of the plan (the sourcing you list here is something but just barely so from what I can tell), I would rather throw my support behind it than see this closed as no consensus, so consider this a changed vote in favor of your move + merge proposal since there's more support for it than just deleting everything. Let the combined list be made and if it turns out to be no good then there's always time for another AfD (not assuming this is necessary though). QuietHere (talk) 11:42, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

• Move and merge to Ceol (compilation series): PerGuliolopez. Neither the album nor the other ones mentioned are good enough to pass WP:NALBUM alone, but with the sources indicated above, merging all of them to 1 article is a more reasonable WP:ATD. ASTIG️🙃 _{(ICE-T • ICE CUBE)} 09:15, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.