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Aug 4, 2017 2:29 AM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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korean scans are out

nice to see Annie again even though just in a backstory of how they attack the walls and see the trio of Eren, Armin and Mikasa for the first time
Aug 4, 2017 10:23 AM
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Since they finally meet, do you think chapter 97 will be another flashback?
Aug 4, 2017 4:23 PM
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Those details and flashbacks!
Isayama outdone himself definitely..
Aug 4, 2017 8:40 PM
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The author is stalling again rather than just filling in between the gap. This seems more like an extra side story chapter.
Aug 5, 2017 12:06 AM
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Being Reiner is suffering. More Annie is always nice even if it's a flashback. Annie kick the hell out of him, looks like a dam zombie when he got back up. Hello Smiling Titan we meet once again.
Aug 5, 2017 2:16 AM
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Ugh. Needless flashback.
Aug 5, 2017 3:31 AM
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Don't tell me Isayama is going to retell the whole story based on RBA's perspective. Because that is absolute crap. If he really wants to tell their story then hire another artist and make a side story manga about it.
Aug 5, 2017 4:19 AM
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reading the english translation give me better understanding of Reiner, Betholdt and Annie that is one great backstory

im sure in the few upcoming chapters we will go back to the main story and see Eren and the gang again
Aug 5, 2017 5:20 AM
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I found it "funny" to see how their plan turned out to be a huge mess and how they barely made it, considering the chaos it was from the Walldians perspective. Also, somehow Dina didn't become completely mindless, since she walked straight to Eren's mom
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voidepression said:
The author is stalling again rather than just filling in between the gap. This seems more like an extra side story chapter.
sidestory? i doubt it, even tho the pace is slow it does provide some info and is closing some plot points and open things related to the warrior's mission
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linormathieu said:
I found it "funny" to see how their plan turned out to be a huge mess and how they barely made it, considering the chaos it was from the Walldians perspective. Also, somehow Dina didn't become completely mindless, since she walked straight to Eren's mom
she was mindless, she also ate hannes but perhaps her unconscious mind could smell grisha
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flame2frost said:
linormathieu said:
I found it "funny" to see how their plan turned out to be a huge mess and how they barely made it, considering the chaos it was from the Walldians perspective. Also, somehow Dina didn't become completely mindless, since she walked straight to Eren's mom
she was mindless, she also ate hannes but perhaps her unconscious mind could smell grisha


Yea for the most part she was mindless but considering how she just ignores Bertolt to go to Carla. I guess a bit of her human side was triggered
Aug 5, 2017 6:47 AM

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>2016 - We want to see more of the warriors
>2017 - No go back to Eren and co
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linormathieu said:
flame2frost said:
she was mindless, she also ate hannes but perhaps her unconscious mind could smell grisha


Yea for the most part she was mindless but considering how she just ignores Bertolt to go to Carla. I guess a bit of her human side was triggered
possible, there's always anomalies but you can't fight your nature, even the one in Ilse's notebook started hurting itself and had to eat her
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Aug 5, 2017 10:49 AM

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>2016 - We want to see more of the warriors
>2017 - No go back to Eren and co


Exactly, I always hear people saying the warrior gang is more interesting. I can understand to some extend why they want the main cast to return, because a lot of person including myself want to see how they look now.

I liked this chapter, and I think there is one more flashback with rba before it ends.
Aug 5, 2017 11:35 AM

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oh wow, the first attack in the perspective or the Warrior Gang... damn that sure explains a lot, so we could say that the one at fault was Ymir all along
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Aug 5, 2017 11:54 AM
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sim0n2170 said:
>2016 - We want to see more of the warriors
>2017 - No go back to Eren and co


Considering we have to wait a month for each chapters, the complaints are legitimate. It's been half a year of flashback now! People will complain less in the anime as the pacing will be better
Aug 5, 2017 12:19 PM

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i'm happy with this chapter and other recent ones too, guys stop being butthurt about Eren and Co they will eventually return plus it must be hard on Isayama to shift to them soon.. its been 4 years so he must come up with a new character design for all of them and a whole new structure for inside the walls too now that Historia is the one holding the power a lot must have changed to the better hopefully.. this details takes time i'm sure Isayama's hands are full right now with a lot of pressure of how fans will accept the new changes to the characters without complains

this chapter wasn't useless in fact it gave me more questions i don't know if its a translation mistake or not but what i understood was that the fake royal family are not eldians ( they're probably marlyians ) so the mass brain wash didn't effected them just like the ackremans and they predicted an infiltration so they stopped hiring new people when the wall was destroyed.. also a brief mention for the Teiber family they most know a lot about the walldians damn!

and lastly.. seems that Dina's story isn't finished yet i hope we will have an explanation of why she ignored Bert in the next chapters! xD
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sim0n2170 said:
>2016 - We want to see more of the warriors
>2017 - No go back to Eren and co


Except it didn't reveal anything new the readers doesn't know already. We already got sufficient amount of chapters about Reiner & co. already. I rather see a Zeke Pov chapter or more tease about the Tieber family rather than an extra chapter that could of been an extra side story outside of the monthly releases. I hope we're not getting another chapter about RBA pov during their time in training with Eren again.
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I like how this chapter once again emphasized how fucked up Reiner's mental state was at this time, especially when he grabbed Annie and said that he'd become Marcel if need be. The guy has definitely been through a lot.

It was pretty cool to see how the events leading up to the beginning of the series played out from the perspective of RBA. I doubt the entire story will be retold from their point of view (at least I hope this doesn't happen), so we'll probably get another flashback chapter or two before going back to Eren and the others.

Also it was really interesting how the Smiling Titan completely ignored Bertolt. Idk what the reason for that was, and if it'll even be explained, but it made it seem like there was some capacity for it to think for itself, ignore everyone else, and immediately go for Eren's mom.
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oh wow, the first attack in the perspective or the Warrior Gang... damn that sure explains a lot, so we could say that the one at fault was Ymir all along
she was mindless, i doubt she had any will to eat a person
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flame2frost said:
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oh wow, the first attack in the perspective or the Warrior Gang... damn that sure explains a lot, so we could say that the one at fault was Ymir all along
she was mindless, i doubt she had any will to eat a person


yeah of course, but still, its a start xD, some sort of accident maybe
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Aug 6, 2017 7:29 AM

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Yeah, something's going on with Dina's titan. She even snapped Carla before eating her which most titans don't do.
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Yeah, something's going on with Dina's titan. She even snapped Carla before eating her which most titans don't do.
Wasn't the snapping only in the anime. She only squeezed her in the manga.
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Yeah, something's going on with Dina's titan. She even snapped Carla before eating her which most titans don't do.
Wasn't the snapping only in the anime. She only squeezed her in the manga.

I just checked it and yeah you're right.
Aug 7, 2017 5:15 AM

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The only thing I liked about this chapter is that we got to see how they broke the wall. It's weird to think about it. They didn't even have a prepared plan, they were completely messed up, so they did whatever seemed the best. Other than that, I'm getting bored of flashbacks.

Yeah, yeah, I understand Reiner is messed up. We already know these things, and I think his character has an amazing background, but I don't want to see that much more of their perspective. I'm sure the next chapter's going to be a flashback too, but they could make it a bit faster. Just show us some pages of talking during the training, so we'd know why Reiner and Berthold haven't talked to Annie that much at the time. We'd get some of their thoughts, some pages of the Trost battle to see why they wanted it, and at the end we could see the main characters. Spending more time with the warriors would be a waste of time.

Also Dina was weird. I doubt it's anything important, but her behaviour was weird for sure.
Aug 7, 2017 11:16 AM

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Interesting chapter since We see from their perspective. It's nice to see Annie again(I still have hope she's gonna come back on the series).


Reiner came to save humanity (Being Antagonist and Protagonist at the same time)
Aug 8, 2017 8:52 AM

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Interesting chapter since We see from their perspective. It's nice to see Annie again(I still have hope she's gonna come back on the series).


Reiner came to save humanity (Being Antagonist and Protagonist at the same time)
with the new OVA being announced she probably is coming back
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Aug 8, 2017 8:42 PM

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Oh man the background story was interesting to see. Back then, no one suspected that Reiner would be there to destroy humanity rather than to protect it.

Aug 9, 2017 3:17 AM

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good chapter as always

lmao reiner only copied what that old man told them regarding his experience with titans😂 and you can really see how much bert really liked annie. at least we saw ema even just for a flashback

btw inside the vol 23 is this hilarious fake preview again "what if characters would live in our world"

where armin is pushing eren to watch 21 jump street and mikasa is pushing twilight lol eren get creeped out so he ran and he saw levi squad, ema thought they were selling drugs but it's just a new kind of cleaning product😂 ema ran and levi squad argued about their marketing strategy😂 levi said he remembers eren's name and face😂

sigh i still miss petra xp
https://t.co/depRKf8MUm?amp=1
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Oh man the background story was interesting to see. Back then, no one suspected that Reiner would be there to destroy humanity rather than to protect it.

technically he thought he was protecting it from the walled eldians
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Aug 9, 2017 3:54 AM

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good chapter as always

lmao reiner only copied what that old man told them regarding his experience with titans😂 and you can really see how much bert really liked annie😂 at least we saw ema even just for a flashback

btw inside the vol 23 is this hilarious fake preview "what if characters would live in our world"

where armin is pushing eren to watch 21 jump street and mikasa is pushing twilight😂 eren get creeped out so he ran and he saw levi squad, ema thought they were selling drugs but it's just a new kind of cleaning product😂 ema ran and levi squad argued about their marketing strategy😂 levi said he remembers eren's name and face😂

sigh i still miss petra xp
https://t.co/depRKf8MUm?amp=1



I remember this, it's the continuation of fake previews from volume 21, looks like isayama liked this alternate world
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Aug 9, 2017 12:07 PM

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Wow this was great chapter, pretty interesting to have seen the events from Annies, Reiners and Bertholdts perspective. Also dat moment when Reiner lost it, this explains a lot.

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sim0n2170 said:
>2016 - We want to see more of the warriors
>2017 - No go back to Eren and co


Except it didn't reveal anything new the readers doesn't know already. We already got sufficient amount of chapters about Reiner & co. already. I rather see a Zeke Pov chapter or more tease about the Tieber family rather than an extra chapter that could of been an extra side story outside of the monthly releases. I hope we're not getting another chapter about RBA pov during their time in training with Eren again.


I agree totally. I said this two months ago, and I'll say it again: the plot is dragging. The reality is, while these chapters serve to humanize Reiner and his friends, the plot hasn't really moved forward, and these last couple chapters haven't even really given us much information beyond *maybe* that moment with Dina's titan. I'm all for humanizing your villains, but these flashbacks should not be six chapters (ie half a year). It almost strikes me as, "manga pressuring Isayama to draw out the series, but he has a pretty solid plan for the direction of the final battles, so this is the easiest way for him to drag us along."

I want to know what's going to happen, but I am also growing disillusioned with the series.
Aug 10, 2017 3:22 AM
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I think we've humanized our villains enough and are ready to move on. I feel a bit more sympathy for them now, seeing how their hearts and kinds are partially oblivious to the nature of the Marleyan regime (maybe Annie really gets it). And now I can see how Eren must have gotten on their nerves big time.
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Holy shiat, two of my favorites just made mash-up? :D

Aug 10, 2017 5:01 AM
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I already liked this chapter more than the previous ones. Could have to do something with seeing Annie again. I don't have much to add, most noticable things have already been mentioned. Bertolt speaking up against Annie's plan to get married or her not having any charm was funny though.
Aug 10, 2017 5:14 AM

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I already liked this chapter more than the previous ones. Could have to do something with seeing Annie again. I don't have much to add, most noticable things have already been mentioned. Bertolt speaking up against Annie's plan to get married or her not having any charm was funny though.
if only he could speak up when she got beaten up by reiner and blackmailed to kill marco
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if only he could speak up when she got beaten up by reiner and blackmailed to kill marco

Heh well, gues he never had the balls to go against Reiner.
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This series keeps on getting shittier as months pass. We're still on the long Frieza arc.
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This series keeps on getting shittier as months pass. We're still on the long Frieza arc.
calm down, it's literally been 1 and a half volume
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Aug 10, 2017 11:08 AM

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Great chapters.

I loved the Reiner arc. It was really awesome how we got to connect the dots and I never would've expected Reiner to become such a developed and sympathetic character.
I enjoy the trio interactions a lot as well, especially since it's adding so much depth to Annie.

I'm looking forward to see what adult Reiner is going to do now
Aug 10, 2017 11:54 AM

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Nice chapter, we got to see their POV in that time they breached the wall and how they act and we got understand them more, I thought I disliked Reiner but it turns out the author knows how to confuse the readers' feelings about a character. Too late for Bert to like Annie now though lmao plus the more we miss our fav "eldians" the more impact it gives when they appear again.
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I really do appreciate seeing things from the point of view from Reiner and seeing how Bertolt got his backstory he told way back when and seeing more of Annie. I know some people are not big fans of the current Marley arc and flashbacks but I find it really intersting reading these chapters as it gives Isayama's writing, his characters and the world he has created more depth and blurrs the lines between good and evil.
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ernst said:
This series keeps on getting shittier as months pass. We're still on the long Frieza arc.
It's only been 6 chapters of Marley chill.
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Will there be a flying dragon as a titan in the future? Maybe through experiment or Zeke's successor since not all titans look the same like Ymir Jaw. Actually the female titan might be a slim male titan if it's user is a male. Also, maybe the author was a fan of GoT before he wrote AoT. However, GoT reminds me of the scheming in 3 kingdoms more except without the censorship. A lot of human flesh eating shows out there like the walking dead, Tokyo Ghouls, etc even they're very different.
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Will there be a flying dragon as a titan in the future? Maybe through experiment or Zeke's successor since not all titans look the same like Ymir Jaw. Actually the female titan might be a slim male titan if it's user is a male. Also, maybe the author was a fan of GoT before he wrote AoT. However, GoT reminds me of the scheming in 3 kingdoms more except without the censorship. A lot of human flesh eating shows out there like the walking dead, Tokyo Ghouls, etc even they're very different.


Isayama only started to watch GoT last fall.
Aug 10, 2017 6:33 PM

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Hajime Isayama’s message on Bessatsu Shonen Magazine September Issue



Hajime Isayama’s Monthly Q&A on Bessatsu Shonen Magazine Septmber Issue



There is no Q&A this month.

Nickname for characters:
Aiming at succeeding the power of Armored Titan, the super active Gaibi is: “OtokoMaeda no Crusher”

Reader’s note: Gabi is so cool like a man and she crushed her enemies with bombs. Combining these two ideas with the joke “AtariMaeda no Cracker”, I think it’s good to make the nickname sound silly and nonsensical.

Editor’s comment: This nickname fits Gabi perfectly since she always deals with difficulties with a positive and straightforward mind! It seems she will get more and more nicknames in future because of her unpredictable activities?!

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So...Last part of Memories? arriving the Wall, demolishing it and living in it? Oh boy...

WOW..Annie....Love her Personality...even when She is part of this Traitorous Trio...I like her Best.
Kick in Stomach! XD WOW!!! KICK HIM MORE!!!

.....Wow...Reiner is revealed to be more and More to be force behind this Trio's 1st actions....he is the one that used their Fears and doubt to make them go forward to succeed the Mission.

....Save the Humanity....Go screw yourself Hypocrite Shit...
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