GrimAtrament said: If we're talking about a re-watch, then I don't see why it matters, but chrono. order for a first time viewer is complete nonsense. Almost every Shonen jump franchise fanbase. @Jonas-K Love mongatari but the fans lost their shit with me when I told them I prefer watching it in chronological order. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
WaffleMaster89 said: More importantly than the CGDCT aspect, it's an "Iyashikei". so if you found it boring then that genre might not be for you. BitChilly said: They're definitely not as outspoken as AOT and the others that people have mentioned but they do exist. I really wanted to like the anime but honestly CGDCT I've realized are just not for me. There were some stuff I liked about it like the backgrounds and the music but all in all I found it to be incredibly boring. Whenever I try to explain that to fans however I've been called stupid and been told "you just don't get it."There’s elitists for Yuru Camp?? That’s a bit of a surprise to me. I guess I’ll say AOT, I love it and always will but I have seen a ridiculous amount of them. Starting to think about it though it could've just been some toxic fans but it was still a sucky experience. For the most part though the fanbase is super chill and nice so if their is an elitists group they're super tiny and don't represent the community as a whole. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
LostSpectre said: Maybe, I haven't watched enough to really know but I did like By the Grace of the Gods which is an Iyashikei. Saint Cecilia and Pastor Lawrence isn't officially labeled as one by MAL but I've been loving that anime as well.WaffleMaster89 said: More importantly than the CGDCT aspect, it's an "Iyashikei". so if you found it boring then that genre might not be for you. They're definitely not as outspoken as AOT and the others that people have mentioned but they do exist. I really wanted to like the anime but honestly CGDCT I've realized are just not for me. There were some stuff I liked about it like the backgrounds and the music but all in all I found it to be incredibly boring. Whenever I try to explain that to fans however I've been called stupid and been told "you just don't get it." Starting to think about it though it could've just been some toxic fans but it was still a sucky experience. For the most part though the fanbase is super chill and nice so if their is an elitists group they're super tiny and don't represent the community as a whole. |
| Go read berserk it's the best thing ever |
WaffleMaster89 said: There's varying degrees, since that one is also an isekai I would be skeptical if it was comparable, but I don't know the show. Saint Cecilia is a very comfy show, but not necessarily the same tone of an iyashikei. Of course, this may all be quite subjective. LostSpectre said: Maybe, I haven't watched enough to really know but I did like By the Grace of the Gods which is an Iyashikei. Saint Cecilia and Pastor Lawrence isn't officially labeled as one by MAL but I've been loving that anime as well.More importantly than the CGDCT aspect, it's an "Iyashikei". so if you found it boring then that genre might not be for you. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| Aria fans and Sangatsu fans really act like having one of those as their favorite makes them superior human beings than anyone who doesn't. |
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| Probably any anime can have snobs in its fanbase. That said, I can tell you the Fate fanbase has some discriminatory levels of elitism in it where some people will look down on you for entering the franchise from Fate/Grand Order or for liking Zero more than Stay Night and such. Arguably, this is worse than Attack on Titan fans in its own ways where they might just be defensive over their favorite show. |
| Legend of the Galactic Heroes they seem to think there better than everyone else, if you don't like it your just too dumb to understand it apparently .  |
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LieLikeVortigern said: Probably any anime can have snobs in its fanbase. That said, I can tell you the Fate fanbase has some discriminatory levels of elitism in it where some people will look down on you for entering the franchise from Fate/Grand Order or for liking Zero more than Stay Night and such. Arguably, this is worse than Attack on Titan fans in its own ways where they might just be defensive over their favorite show. At least Fate fans stay their lane. Battle Shounen fans literal start spreading their hate everywhere else. |
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| Monogatari without a doubt. Then whatever tends to be avant-garde or has surrealism and isn't just action/fighting or comedy or slice of life and then there's some elitists who thinks only SoL is the goat and everything else is trash. |
WaffleMaster89 said: For some reason I found myself watching that Grace of Gods anime and it was physically painful, absolutely mind numbingly boring, it's like every single character was mentally slow. I'm not saying it doesn't qualify as an iyashikei, but unlike shows such as Yuru Camp, Aria, Mushishi, I absolutely did not appreciate the atmosphere of that show, it wasn't tranquil or zen-like, it just felt like any other mediocre slice of life isekai, except this was far worse. Anyway, I just needed to share. LostSpectre said: Maybe, I haven't watched enough to really know but I did like By the Grace of the Gods which is an Iyashikei. Saint Cecilia and Pastor Lawrence isn't officially labeled as one by MAL but I've been loving that anime as well.More importantly than the CGDCT aspect, it's an "Iyashikei". so if you found it boring then that genre might not be for you. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| Re:Zero. I once tried pointing out the flaws in that series as an anime, but the light novel fans will swarm you to tell you "but they explain this in the light novel" or "but in the light novel this information was given". Unfortunately, I am of the opinion a work of anime must stand by itself, whether it is written as an original or whether it is an adaptation work. If you need to read several hundred pages of an external work for it to make sense, then the anime doesn't work. |
| There's no inherent right or wrong in this universe, but when we think with emotions rather than logic, we make things so. |
LostSpectre said: Miya objectively best girl though.WaffleMaster89 said: For some reason I found myself watching that Grace of Gods anime and it was physically painful, absolutely mind numbingly boring, it's like every single character was mentally slow. I'm not saying it doesn't qualify as an iyashikei, but unlike shows such as Yuru Camp, Aria, Mushishi, I absolutely did not appreciate the atmosphere of that show, it wasn't tranquil or zen-like, it just felt like any other mediocre slice of life isekai, except this was far worse. Anyway, I just needed to share. Maybe, I haven't watched enough to really know but I did like By the Grace of the Gods which is an Iyashikei. Saint Cecilia and Pastor Lawrence isn't officially labeled as one by MAL but I've been loving that anime as well. |
| Go read berserk it's the best thing ever |
RobertsahDHDA said: LieLikeVortigern said: Probably any anime can have snobs in its fanbase. That said, I can tell you the Fate fanbase has some discriminatory levels of elitism in it where some people will look down on you for entering the franchise from Fate/Grand Order or for liking Zero more than Stay Night and such. Arguably, this is worse than Attack on Titan fans in its own ways where they might just be defensive over their favorite show. At least Fate fans stay their lane. Battle Shounen fans literal start spreading their hate everywhere else. I happen to generally enjoy shounen so it hasn't bit me much, fortunately. :) I assume it did for you though, given your reply, so I'll offer you my condolences. |
| definitely berserk. Cannot be at #1 in mal top manga and not have an elitist fanbase despite berserk being almost entirely known for the gold age arc. |
| Hot take, but CGDCT fans are the most elitist people ever. You say one negative thing about it and they swarm you and say that you just don't understand it. Yeah, I sure don't understand watching little girls doing mundane things in atrociously over-the-top pastel and shiny color palates. I sure don't. |
| Aot, re zero, berserk, hxh, vinland saga, universal century or ibo gundam |
| FMAB and Vinland Saga stans come to mind. |
| Evangelion by far After that: Fate LOGH Gundam |
| One Piece fandom wins in toxicity category by a lot than other fandoms. Dunno about elitism, cuz they may not even understand such term |
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BitChilly said:
I guess I’ll say AOT, I love it and always will but I have seen a ridiculous amount of them.
They're definitely not as outspoken as AOT and the others that people have mentioned but they do exist. I really wanted to like the anime but honestly CGDCT I've realized are just not for me. There were some stuff I liked about it like the backgrounds and the music but all in all I found it to be incredibly boring. Whenever I try to explain that to fans however I've been called stupid and been told "you just don't get it."WaffleMaster89 said:
Probably Re: Zero, Yuru Camp, and AOT.
There’s elitists for Yuru Camp?? That’s a bit of a surprise to me.Probably Re: Zero, Yuru Camp, and AOT.
I guess I’ll say AOT, I love it and always will but I have seen a ridiculous amount of them.
Starting to think about it though it could've just been some toxic fans but it was still a sucky experience. For the most part though the fanbase is super chill and nice so if their is an elitists group they're super tiny and don't represent the community as a whole.
| @WaffleMaster89 Niche genres or fanbases attract some people who are overly protective, I don't think that is specifically elitism, but it can certainly become annoying if it is not the right time and place. My experience with the Yuru Camp fandom I belong to is actually a bit of the contrary. Aside from a few vocal fans reacting to negative comments in a disproportionate way, the fandom is like... very sanitized, like an attitude/obsession to make it a safe place 24/7, even compared with other shows in the genre. There is an active intent to avoid conflict or controversy even among fans, which is nice but to a point one also misses some of the "problematic" energy other fandoms have. Part of that I think is that Yuru Camp itself is pretty much built on a consensus that other CGDCT SoLs haven't enjoyed for whatever reason, of a show that is fundamentally harmless, and has never attracted hate or discourse; people who dislike it just call it "boring/not my cup of tea". |
jal90Oct 5, 2023 8:41 AM
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one that comes to mind is Jujutsu Kaisen
| @iieskaa really? Many are openly bashing their own series and boycotting it after recent events |
| @Balsamina for a ln series, re zero is next level of elitism since there are so many threads comparing it with aot, fmab, steins gate. They automatically think rem and emilia are the best girls ever made. Subaru is the best mc. Tappei is also an extremely elitist writer and thinks he is entitled to twice the length of aot You won't here another ln series like sao, dal, konosuba, mushoku, overlord, tensura say the amount of elitist talk that the re zero fandom does. They think re zero beats every light novel in every aspect. But I heavily disagree. I argue dal has better girls and later volumes are way better written than re zero arc 6. I argue sao has a better world built than re zero. Ainz is a better protagonist. If you are a ln series, don't dare air same time as re zero and be close it on the polls or the fandom will eat you alive. |
| I think some of the replies here are confusing concepts. It can kinda overlap but just because a fandom is toxic and/or annoying, it doesnt necessarily means its elitist. i cant say how it is nowadays but for example the bnha fandom used to be super toxic (lord help anyone that had a different opinion) but i dont think they are or were elitist but maybe im wrong lol |
 𝑩𝒖𝒕 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 𝒌𝒏𝒐𝒘 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒂𝒔 𝒅𝒂𝒓𝒌 𝒂𝒔 𝒏𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕 𝒊𝒔, 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒓𝒔 𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒍𝒍 𝒔𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒆 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒖𝒏 𝒘𝒊𝒍𝒍 𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒍𝒍 𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒆. |
| Evangelion solos is this case of ........... |
Complex Stories are basically sleeping pills . Helps to get some sleep . |
| Hunter x hunter without a doubt, especially on reddit, you can't say anything bad about the show even if its just your personal preference to not like something, you will get downvoted to hell and get tons of hate comments. |
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Evangelion,just because anno have mental breakdown while making evangelion to creates this total mindfuck and being handled by miyazaki and his student btw,it's extremely annoying,how they are some kind of elitists,pretending their anime is superior to every anime,their fanbase also total shit,pretending they to be dark or deppressed after watching evangelion,you understand eva,you elite,it's total cringe and i want to vomit every single elitists who have evangelion on favs(except abystoma2 since he's a veteran btw),and they just overrating symbolism pretending this to be deep,and mostly evangelion first half and original ending sucks,so that too.
OT: i cried when watching the original ending,because it's impactful to me
i watch evangelion just for to see is the cosmic horror that scary? then i watch EoE where i'm mindless and speechless,damn.
OT: i cried when watching the original ending,because it's impactful to me
i watch evangelion just for to see is the cosmic horror that scary? then i watch EoE where i'm mindless and speechless,damn.
| @Hatreddd how does having evangelion in favourite= must be an elitist who hates on other things? Isn't that extreme generalization? Have you talked to every single eva fan to say all of them are the exact same? |
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Has to be Re:Zero. Anytime I enter the forums there its always someone saying they don't like the anime, then getting flanked for having an opinion.
| @AnimeLeviathan ngl, that's pretty much almost every anime if you go into the forum of a popular anime, find a thread talking about how someone didn't like it, snd there will definitely be people arguing about how the other person is wrong. Atleast that's the case for every "popular" anime. |
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Virtually every Fate fan I've ever met has been a haughty prick.
I'm surprised people are saying HXH, because I've never really found much of that. All I see are annoying ass fangirls, and I think I would rather have snobby fans rather than fujoshis.
I'm surprised people are saying HXH, because I've never really found much of that. All I see are annoying ass fangirls, and I think I would rather have snobby fans rather than fujoshis.
| @mojito_ try saying something mildly negative about hxh on reddit and you will be sentenced to death by the subreddit, i love the show but the subreddit is the absolute trashcan of a place. |
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| Evangelion is the first one to come to mind. Legend of the Galactic Heroes and Lain too. |
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Reply to Yuu_Kanzaki
AoT, Evangelion, JoJo, MHA. They're the worst.
| @Yuu_Kanzaki MHA fandom might be a bit cringe but Elitist? FAR FROM IT |
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| Apart from Aot since its obvious Berserk, JJK, Eva, fate, HxH, Monster. HxH, Monster and eva are one of my top favs but the fandoms for these 3 can be "to much"I used to be a HxH fanboy back in the day... Dark past Fr... |
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| like, MHA, HxH, errr, one piece fans are scary, eva, jjk, fate probably |
| Ghost in the Shell... I've had fans seriously triggered because I didn't like it. But reading the comments I think there are far worse fanbases and I'm lucky to not have encountered them... people are weird |
| ~ Those who look with clouded eyes see nothing but shadows ~ |
| I think it goes without saying, but any popular seinen attracts dorks who think they're cool for liking it. Also Re:Zero. I've been harassed on multiple occasions by rezero tards which is something I cant say about seinen guys. |
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| Any anime that's pretending to be intellectually deep by shrouding the various plot points and characters' motives in layers of nonsense, mystery and pointless symbolism. Those shows will always attract a large group of pseudo-intellectuals who will feel smart for filling up the holes left there intentionally by pretentious failed novel writers. Those anime watchers will praise those shows because it forced them to activate their imagination to make sense of an incomplete story. Their thought patterns are self-masturbatory. Best examples of this are shows like Evangelion, Lain, Texhnolyze, Cowboy Bebop. There's a few more made by the same hacks, but I haven't had the displeasure to watch them yet. |
| Any series made 50 years ago with bad animation. |
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| Hunter x Hunter, DBS, Tomino people, the UFO Robo Mazingaogar vs Mobile Suit Gekiganger XYZ (... good stuff, they just don't make 'em like that anymore.) crowd, Ikuhara people, Yuasa people (the ones who think one of his movies are his best, and not Tatami). Imagine how bad it would be if Fate source readers got an adaption that wasn't worth whining up a storm about. We can only hope this never happens, for the betterment of online discussion. |
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| Attack on Titan, Berserk, HxH, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, etc. |
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